trail boss 308 subsonic load data

There are good days, bad days, and days like today! I bought a 16 inch barrell .308 Winchester that is at the smith's getting threaded for my Suppressor. For example, with 405-grain bullets in .45-70 with a 24-inch barrel, a velocity of 1,007 fps is given. 2 6 0. that bullet was designed purely for subsonic use. At sea level, stability is iffy in a 1 in 12" twist, but a 1 in 10" twist should work. 0 4 5 Large Rifle Magnum Primers. I have found Trail Boss works better in larger rifle cases. I have done a fair amount of searching on the web and I cannot find printed load information with this combo. Most of my testing with Trail Boss has indicated that velocities at 70% fill or a bit higher are around 50% of the velocities loaded with normal powders. I just shot 10 rounds loaded with IMR 4895 (25 gr) with no problem. The 174gr cast grouped with 8.7 & 9g of trail boss. The only thing I can think of that a sub-sonic load would be good for would be shooting thru a silencer. YMMV but the following 308 subsonic loads have worked great for me. groups range in the .65 to . S. Scoobyshoot. The supersonic 208gr ones worked fine. Originally Posted by jim160. I heard the Hornady 212 ELD-X will not stabilize with slower velocities. Christchurch. Hopefully these work nicely for you. Hi everyone! a lot of he scaremongering about subsonic loads was pre trail boss ! An absolute pipsqueek of a load but I'm not sure it's sub-sonic. bullet gives around 850-900 fps and that is about 70% case capacity. 13-15 grains of Trailboss will be subsonic or close with the 208 AMAX in .308. i don't know the range your thinking of but you will need to know the range to the target very accurately(the drop is shocking) , and in honesty I think subsonic 308 for fox is a 150m round max as a good sub load should group 2-3 inches at this range. 0:00 / 8:03 •. Starting Loads 30,600 PSI 39,100 CUP As noted in the powder description section, Trail Boss was designed primarily for reduced loads using lead bullets in pistol cartridges. At sea level, stability is iffy in a 1 in 12" twist, but a 1 in 10" twist should work. Load data for subsonic 308, help. Thanks all for the data. Since I have bunch of odd ball bullets figured they would be something to start with. I have a Bushmaster ORC 308 that I could try Trail Boss in but I doubt the findings would differ much I have a user-serviceable silencer that I shoot a lot of 300 blackout cast through. 215gr polymer coated Missouri Bullets loaded to 1050 fps. Tested the loads today. Zbroyar Z-10Помощь каналу на камеру и штатив)ПБ: 4731 2191 1695 1231Монобанк: 4441 1144 2037 7853 The Trail Boss 308 loads are not in a reloading book but they have started to publish some 30-30 lead loads with Trail Boss. Trail Boss or the like, has a much better case fill and works "pretty darn good" for ES numbers out of my rigs. Kiwi here is a quick run down on subsonic .308 ammo. Chronographed at 1030fps. 3,727. Plenty of Trail Boss Plenty of Hornady 208gr Amax LC brass once ready to load Winchester magnum and Winchester regular Primers. I've already loaded some 168gn Trail Boss to test but can't find any data for CFE BLK. I've tried 2205 in 308 with 220gr RN's, and in 7.62x39 with 180gr RN's (bad bullet choice btw). We all love the smell of burnt powder, but snorting the suppressor after a few trail boss rounds through the can, will knock your nose hairs out. Hodgdon does have data for Trail Boss in very light loads for .38-55, .40-65 and .45-70. I think 6gr is a little low if you're looking for 1000fps. 2. I am trying to produce a good subsonic .308 load to shoot out of my Remington 700 Tactical. I could . . Coyote99 said: Not a .308, but for my 7mm-08, I load 160 gr. Cavity Back MKZ 195 grain Subsonic 7.62/.308. Can't find any Remington Managed Recoil ammo on the shelf. Lyman shows load data for 44, 55 and 60 grain bullets in 223. It is not solely that. Subsonic Handloads in .308 Win - Testing Results. A subsonic LR that reliably cycles so far seems an elusive creation that so few have mastered it seems it can't be done. A good manufactured subsonic round at 100 yards or meters should yield a group of .50 to .75 MOA with the fast twist barrels. The WTB Trail Boss 27. View attachment 87041. This got me thinking. It would be supersonic. 9oz = 3937 grains. Here are my specs and results; .308 once fired lake city brass cut to 2.006" after full length sizing Lee 170gr .309 flat point mold no gas check liquid Alex tumble lube wheel weight alloy water dropped wolf magnum large rifle primers bullseye 5.4-5.6gr light taper crimp fps - 1060-1098 150 gr Xtreme plated 308 bullet with 12.5 gr Trail Boss shoot well out of my 308 bolt gun at 50 yds. 5.2gr Trail Boss (fills case nicely - does not meter to well though *donut shaped powder) OAL - 2.255. And the best way to get sub sonic loads is to use heavier bullets with light powders like Trail Boss. For subsonic loads in such a large case, I would go for Trail Boss powder. Sierra 220RN, Trail Boss 12gr, CCI250, 970fps. 5) 60% start load for IMR 4895 is 20. At 3 grains min / 5 grains max, even the 9oz containers should reload quite a few. Accuracy is not a concern with this one, it will most likely be used for CAS and plinking. Very quiet with my Silencerco Harvester 30. Posts. .223 sized brass (trimmed to length) SRP (in my case #41 CCI) 62gr SS109 bullets. I was anxious to try TG so loaded 3.3g and 3.1g of TG with a 55 Hornady SP and got ~ 1000 fps and mid 900's respectively. 308 subsonic rounds. From what read on line so far .250" Meplat 308 bullet at 1050-1100fps should be .308 in and creating 1/2" wound channel. It still lists a 223 load with TG but no 308 Win. This is about 75% load density. I have been shooting Trail Boss loads (12 gr) in my Savage 110 - 308 and am pleased with the results (1/2 min groups). Then back-off .2 grains and you should have your subsonic load. they said 7gr. My only exposure to subsonic reloading has been 300BO with AA1680 and .308 with Trailboss, but once I clear up the other reloading projects in front of me I'll eventually get into 7.62x39 subs. Trail Boss burns clean as well. View Profile View Forum Posts View Articles Member Join Date Mar 2011 Location Wyoming Posts 65 Feedback Score 0. Spot on. My thoughts went to cast bullets. I also use 165 gr. Why not make a LR build worth it, like do something the Blk can't . RIFLE RELOADING DATA 2 #2100 .308" 110 gr. If you ever feel like no one cares if you live or die, try missing a few car payments. *Shaded column displays subsonic load data. You can use JBM bullet stability ca.culator if you know length of bullet and muzzle velocity and barrel twist. If so would you share data and experiences. 10 gr. Location: Belmont, NC (Sometimes) So, I have been working 308 loads for a suppressed rifle. Accurate to 100 yds, and hits the 200 yd steel with no adjustment. 223 subsonic load data. CAST Lead Flat Nose Trail Boss .308" 2.485" 6.5 grain 997 fps 20500 cup 9.0 grain 1195 fps 29100 cup ADI load data good luck with it .22 winchester .22hornet .222 .243 7mm rem mag cbc 12g use cast lead. Also ordering some 180 Maker subsonics. The 208gr subsonic tumbled but did group at 25m. For example, with 405-grain bullets in .45-70 with a 24-inch barrel, a velocity of 1,007 fps is given. My thought was to make the jacketed bullets like wide flat nosed cast bullets. Working up a subsonic load for the bush pig to shoot over Ninja. The most common .308 subsonic load I know of (and that has been around for many years) is the following: 10 Grains of Trail Boss powder (OR substitute 8.2 gr. Dec 31, 2017. The same 12.5 gr Trail Boss gives me vertical string when I shoot 123 gr Lucky 13 polymer coated 309 dia cast bullets! He also really liked the ones I loaded up with Trail Boss to produce a 50 to 75 yd "Cat Sneeze" load. Has anyone tried cast bullets for subsoncic supressed loads. There is NO WAY to get overpressure from a full .308 case with Trail Boss. Today I stumbled across a box of 180gr subsonic loads I loaded for my bolt gun a few years ago. You just have too much case capacity with a 308, IMO. This series will cover the development, testing and terminal ballistics of the load. Tuesday I found a 4 lb jug of Tite Group at a local GS and grabbed it. I may be a worry wart but, but like you, I am concerned about safety. You can use them. Worked down from 10 grains in one grain increments to 7.0 grains when it went subsonic and reasonably quiet. with a 220 gr. 1 0 2 0 7 1. The subsonic loads hit a couple feet below point of aim at 100 yards. While playing with this 308 to start testing Blue Dot loads for it ( with SR 4759, 4198 and RL 7 also on the list), I also loaded up a few for a friend to try to get his feed back. I have been looking for Trail Boss for a year and still haven't located a jug, so checking to see if anyone can share load data with other powders such as Unique, Lil Gun, and AA5744 for the 308 Win. . My .308 Subsonic loads Lapua case 2.005" Hornady 220 GN Round Nose Interlock Hodgdon Trail Boss 14.1 GN CCI LARGE PRIMERS OAL 2.735" TIKKA T3 TACTICAL 24"1:11 TWIST SEA LEVEL 83 FARENHEIT SPEED CHRONO 10FT 1.1082 FT/S 2.1102 3.1098 1/4 MOA AT 100Y HORNADYS 178 GN ELD-X LAPUA CASE 2.005" TRAIL BOSS 10.1 GN OAL 2.800" 1.1070 FT/S 2.1062 3.1059 Three different loads, velocities from 1290-1390, decent accuracy. Please list any subsonic 308 WIN load data below. Last Sat I took a group of TRAIL BOSS loads to range. I tried the drilled flash hole/Clays or other standard pistol powder loads. While not sub sonic, I'm loading down to about 2300 to 2400 f/s. My subsonic load for 308 is a 180 grain bullet over 10.5 grains of Trail Boss. 925. None were really useful. Most any standard primer will work with Trail Boss. Starting to dabble in suppressed subsonic 308 Win. My loads may not be right for your bullets/case if you are seating bullets too deep or out far. I have recently been working up subsonic loads for 308 using Trail boss and TiteGroup with 170gr Sieerra flat noses. AP2020 Merchandise https://ballisticink.com/collections/all/patriot-partner_ap2020-outdoorsPLEASE SUPPORT AP2020 and Check out These Outdoor Links on Patreon. A chronograph is a must to tune the loads to match the individual barrel. Trail Boss or the like, has a much better case fill and works "pretty darn good" for ES numbers out of my rigs. There has been a lot of chatter on Internet sites lately about centerfire loads that fire bullets at subsonic velocities. Sierra 150-grain Pro-Hunter bullets and Trail Boss fired from a .308 Winchester rifle shot this group at 50 yards. 10-28-11, 21:49 #2. Up to this point Trail Boss has been portrayed as a propellant for older, large-volume revolvers and/or levergun cartridges. My 44 mag Trail boss load with cast 240 gr bullets is 6.0 gr., this is a great youth load and fun for plinking but I do not think it is sub sonic, It is quite a bit louder than the .38 special load I listed above. A chronograph is a must to tune the loads to match the individual barrel. However, Trail Boss offers superb versatility in rifle cartridges producing reduced loads using lead or jacketed bullets. 1; 2 . anyone used Trailboss for subsonic .308 loads ? 308 load for a youth? Re: Subsonic load for 308 with Trail Boss Finally hooked up with my buddy to test the Sub-sonics in his rifle. While playing with this 308 to start testing Blue Dot loads for it ( with SR 4759, 4198 and RL 7 also on the list), I also loaded up a few for a friend to try to get his feed back. That being said, if I were to want to try some 308 sub-sonic loads I'd start with Trail boss. Then tried 7.5 grains and plenty of noise again. AH member. My initial experiments have been with Trail Boss because it is so bulky and takes up a lot of space, but accuracy is less than I expected with the particular bullet/rifle combo. It is not solely that. There are "gallery" loads for the .308 but they won't be subsonic. Velocities are 1700-2400 range with pistol powders like Unique, 2400, 4227 and my favorite, Accurate #9. With subsonics starting high and working low can prevent getting a bullet stuck in the bore. projo for 1050fps. 8 grains under a 180 grain bullet should give you a nice 1000 fps load. These loads and others were shot with Trail Boss powder in an attempt to develop subsonic velocities (left to right): .30-06, .308 Winchester,.30-30 Winchester, .243 Winchester, .223 Remington. There are a few tricks to working up and shooting subsonic loads. . I made three each with standard and magnum primers. It works reasonably well. Load data for subsonic 308, help. 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